Dean and Jailbait
Jan. 30th, 2009 09:30 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ariadnes_stringThe following is a rant--too long to politely post to anyone's episode discussion post. And it probably has all been said before. In fact, if you're reading this, and you've said this before, my apologies for the repetition.
in 4.13, Dean taunts Sam by telling him that he's found out which three cheerleaders are legal--underlining his lust for underage girls for the second time this season (at least). And, collectively, the SPN fandom say, "Ew" and "Spare me, Dean, aren't you 30 already?" and "What's the point?"
And what is the point? I mean, we know Dean's never going to have sex with a minor on screen. Is it character continuity--"Dean's a horndog"--or character defamation by misguided writers? It's fun to taunt Sam, but is there more to it than that?
After all, and this is the point of the post, we know, and would know even if a thousand fanfics hadn't told us, that Dean is a bottom, sub, borderline masochist, and the only cheerleader he would like would be holding a whip. Those elderly magicians in 4.12 took one look at him and knew this.
The iconic Dean scene, repeated over the course of every season, and thus possibly the iconic Supernatural scene (iconic in that if you didn't like such scenes, you wouldn't like the series at all), involves Dean being dominated, almost always by a man, almost always by a supernaturally-enhanced man, at least half the time someone from his own family, and often involves intense physical pain. These scenes are far more charged, for more central to the affective energy of the series, than any of the heterosexual sex scenes we occasionally witness.
Just to take the first five I can think of:
*YED!John torturing Dean in"Devil's Trap"
*Demon!Sam grinding his thumb into the bullet wound in Dean's shoulder in "Born Under a Bad Sign"
*Castiel threatening to send Dean back to Hell in AYTGimDW
*YED!Grandpa Cambell threatening Dean in "In the Beginning"
*Uriel threatening Dean in Heaven and Hell
There may be many more, but now that I've written out the list I wonder if such scenes haven't become more frequent in Season 4--alongside the more frequent references to Dean's desire for underage girls. Alongside the show's desire to pair him up with a young, "sweet," literal Angel. Is the show, is Dean, frantically trying to ward off the recognition of these darker sexual drives--even as they power the show to a greater and great extent?
in 4.13, Dean taunts Sam by telling him that he's found out which three cheerleaders are legal--underlining his lust for underage girls for the second time this season (at least). And, collectively, the SPN fandom say, "Ew" and "Spare me, Dean, aren't you 30 already?" and "What's the point?"
And what is the point? I mean, we know Dean's never going to have sex with a minor on screen. Is it character continuity--"Dean's a horndog"--or character defamation by misguided writers? It's fun to taunt Sam, but is there more to it than that?
After all, and this is the point of the post, we know, and would know even if a thousand fanfics hadn't told us, that Dean is a bottom, sub, borderline masochist, and the only cheerleader he would like would be holding a whip. Those elderly magicians in 4.12 took one look at him and knew this.
The iconic Dean scene, repeated over the course of every season, and thus possibly the iconic Supernatural scene (iconic in that if you didn't like such scenes, you wouldn't like the series at all), involves Dean being dominated, almost always by a man, almost always by a supernaturally-enhanced man, at least half the time someone from his own family, and often involves intense physical pain. These scenes are far more charged, for more central to the affective energy of the series, than any of the heterosexual sex scenes we occasionally witness.
Just to take the first five I can think of:
*YED!John torturing Dean in"Devil's Trap"
*Demon!Sam grinding his thumb into the bullet wound in Dean's shoulder in "Born Under a Bad Sign"
*Castiel threatening to send Dean back to Hell in AYTGimDW
*YED!Grandpa Cambell threatening Dean in "In the Beginning"
*Uriel threatening Dean in Heaven and Hell
There may be many more, but now that I've written out the list I wonder if such scenes haven't become more frequent in Season 4--alongside the more frequent references to Dean's desire for underage girls. Alongside the show's desire to pair him up with a young, "sweet," literal Angel. Is the show, is Dean, frantically trying to ward off the recognition of these darker sexual drives--even as they power the show to a greater and great extent?
